Clomid in bodybuilding is one of the most common pharmacological drugs in the first-aid kit of bodybuilders on steroids. In this article, we will talk about what clomid is, how the infertility drug for women got into bodybuilding, give instructions for use on the course of steroids and after it (on the PCT), and also compare what is better tamoxifen or clomid.
What is clomid (clomiphene citrate)?
Clomid (clomiphene citrate) is a powerful antiestrogen, very similar in its action to tamoxifen (tamoxifen citrate).
Clomid became very popular in the 1970s in medicine as a drug for the treatment of infertility in women and today it is still one of its main applications.
In bodybuilding, clomid is used by athletes on a course of anabolic steroids to eliminate side effects associated with the partial conversion of steroids to estrogen (female sex hormone), as well as to stimulate internal testosterone production after a course of steroids (on PCT), which is suppressed when taking steroids.
The application of clomid
Use in medicine for infertility
When taking clomiphene citrate, the levels of gonadotropin hormones in the blood increase.
Gonadotropins are a number of hormones (follicle-stimulating, luteinizing) that play an important role in regulating the function of the sexual glands. These hormones control the levels of testosterone and estrogen in the blood, which are known to determine the development and functioning of the male and female genitals.
When the level of gonadotropins in a woman’s body increases, the egg is released (ovulation occurs) and that is why the chance of getting pregnant increases.
The use of clomid in bodybuilding on the course of steroids
Clomid has strong anti-estrogenic properties that can be useful in medicine and bodybuilding for athletes using steroids. The fact is that testosterone and some steroids derived from testosterone are partially converted into estrogens.
An increased level of estrogen leads to the development of gynecomastia (female breast growth) and excessive fluid retention in the body – both effects are undesirable in bodybuilding.
Excess fluid increases blood pressure and hides muscle relief. That is why professional bodybuilders take diuretics to remove it from the subcutaneous layers while drying the body.
What clomid does: when it is taken on a course of steroids, it blocks the estrogen receptors in the body, preventing its action. Therefore, it can be useful for fighting gynecomastia, since women’s Breasts grow under the influence of estrogen. How effective is it for this purpose?
According to information from the site steroid.com, whose creators sell sports pharmacology and apparently have a good understanding of how it works:
For serious steroid users (those who take steroids regularly and in high doses), clomid is not effective enough to protect against the side effects of steroids associated with estrogen. They will need to take aromatase inhibitors, which inhibit the synthesis of estrogen. They are the most effective means to combat gynecomastia and water retention when taking steroids.
As for fluid retention in the body: clomid can interfere with it to some extent, but it is not very effective for this, since it does not reduce the level of estrogen in the blood, but only “turns off” the estrogen receptors.
However, it should be understood that in most cases, water retention in the body is more a matter of nutrition than pharmacology. An excess of carbohydrates in the diet, for example, contributes to the retention of fluid in the body, which is further enhanced by the presence of anabolic steroids in the system.
Taking clomid on a course of steroids allows you to avoid side effects associated with increased estrogen levels (gynecomastia), but it is ineffective in fighting fluid retention in the body.
Application in bodybuilding after a course of steroids on PCT
Most often clomid in bodybuilding is used by athletes after a course of steroids on PCT – Post Cycle Therapy – therapy after a course of steroids). What for?
To speed up the recovery of natural testosterone production, which is almost completely suppressed while taking anabolics. The degree of suppression depends significantly on the type of steroids and the dose. That is why almost all courses of steroids include exogenous testosterone, but they are not limited to one. This is done in order to protect against the effects of low testosterone.
After stopping taking steroids, the natural synthesis of testosterone begins to gradually recover, but full recovery takes quite a long time: from a few months to a year. PCT was developed specifically to speed up the process of restoring natural testosterone production with the help of pharmacology. The most popular PCT courses usually include clomid and tamoxifen, as well as the peptide hormone – chorionic gonadotropin. Tamoxifen is a b analog of clomid for its antiestrogenic properties.
What does clomid do: it stimulates the release of gonadotropins, which in turn stimulates the natural production of testosterone. What will happen if you do not do PCT after the course and do not take clomid? At the very least, you will have to deal with the symptoms of low testosterone for a long time. Recommend: How to boost testosterone in natural ways: 7 natural testosterone boosters. It is important to keep in mind that with low testosterone, the level of the catabolic hormone cortisol increases, which makes it easier to gain fat mass and actively begins to destroy muscle.
PCT is recommended if the use of steroids is stopped for more than 8 weeks. If the break between courses (bridge) is less than 8 weeks or small doses of exogenous testosterone are administered during it, as is customary for hardcore athletes, but the PCT can not be done.
Clomiphene citrate is taken after a course of steroids on PCT to speed up the recovery of natural testosterone levels.
How effective is clomid for restoring testosterone? Scientific research
Scientific research confirms that clomiphene citrate is indeed effective in increasing testosterone levels. Taking clomiphene for 2 weeks by men aged 18-55 years led to an increase in testosterone levels of about 2 times in most of them, but some participants after 2 weeks and a month there was a sharp paradoxical decrease in testosterone for scientists. A study on 125 men with low testosterone (less than 400 ng/DL) and reduced sexual desire who took clomid for 3 months showed that the level of testosterone increased approximately twice (from 309 ng/DL to 642 ng/DL). There were no changes in the level of cholesterol in the blood, and no side effects were noted by any of the participants.
And here, scientists have studied the long-term effect of taking clomid in men with low testosterone levels. At the beginning, the average testosterone level was 228 ng / DL. After one year of use – 612 ng/DL, after two years 562 ng/DL, after three years 582 ng / DL. Significantly increased bone density. No side effects were observed. Clomid significantly improves sexual function in men with hypogonadism and erectile dysfunction.
Scientific studies confirm the effectiveness of clomid in increasing testosterone levels by an average of 2 times both with short-term administration (for 2 weeks) and with long-term (for several years).
Side effects of clomid in bodybuilding
Clomid is considered one of the most well-tolerated antiestrogens in sports pharmacology and does not lead to serious side effects in either men or women. This is confirmed by scientific research. However, some side effects are possible.
Women who take clomiphene citrate for infertility treatment note at least one of the following side effects: irritability, mood swings, depression, water retention in the body. And here are other possible side effects:
- headache;
- nausea;
- tides (a sharp increase in temperature);
- uterine bleeding;
- discomfort in the chest;
- eye problem;
- acne (pimples).
When using clomid, vision may be impaired in the form of blurring and blurring. This is stated on the same website of the sports pharmacology store steroids.com 1. it is also recommended That in this case “stop using it and then vision will be restored… in most cases. There are several cases where this did not happen, most likely because clomid was taken for a very long time in very high doses.”
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Yep!
Is it safe with anabolics?
If taken in moderation and with precautions – yep. That’s why so many people take Clomid.
Yes, just do not overdose both and make pauses.
quite safe, but mind side effects
if you take both with caution – absolutely no
Sure. Most mix them. Mind the doses!
Normal “medium” dose works??
Yep. Still, it depends on your weight, muscle mass etc. Start with 50 mg Clomid tabs. You’ll understand if it works soon.
Yep. If you’d think you have to increse it, do it at least in a month.
Hi! Is there any drug to ease swelling because of Clomid use?
I’d better not overmedicate, ’cause all of ’em have side effects and interact with each other. Think of home remedies.
Why not try decrease the dose? Gradually…
I suffer ever more: EXTREME hot flashes, headaches, and even trouble sleeping…
Me not. I have literally NO side effects.
Just try to reduce the dose.
I’d better use home remedies! Unfortunately it happens sometimes…
Hi guys! Let’s discuss our nutrition!
protein LOL
U start LOL
Hi dude! Mine is 80% protein and 10/10 the rest. I use this plan a month, than take a break for a month (that is, intake less protein). And I feel fine!!! LOL
fck u idiot
Mary, it’s you? LOL
Is it safe to intake nothing but proteins during the course of Clomid?
It’s unsafe to INTAKE only proteins in any case!!!
I’d support medicalME
U R kidding
NO
Oh, I’m an expert in that, BAD IDEA!
I’ve found 25, 50, 75 mg pills on the web. Do they exist?
I’d not buy such pills. Anyway, normal doses are 50 and 100.
Even if they do, it makes no sense. Normal Clomid doses are 50 and 100.
In fact they don’t. Search for another shop.
hi guys what’s the right female dose?
My doc reccomended me 50 mg (and it was FINE!), and my friends took the same!
I’d tell U the same as Kate: Clomid 50 mg’s fine for most of us
Depends on your weight, load, diet etc. Ask someone in gym if don’t wanna see a doctor (obviously noone wants since they do not prescribe Clomid for this purpose)
hi! what’s the maximum clomid dose U personally took? i mean real experience not the instructions
My MAX was 200 per day, and I’d say I felt quite bad!
I’ve tried to take more than recommended, and could resist just for a couple of days – terrible side effects!
About to start clofert 50 (50mg Clomid) should I start straight daily on 50mg a day or build up to it. And how long can I safely take it for? Thanks guys. Amazing Page this.
50 mg’s fine, you can start with this dosage. As for the course, some prefer 1-month course, while others continue up to 3 months. Good luck!
I’ve done up to 6 months (for other purpose, but still…) – nothing bad at all. Guess every person tolerates this medicine in its own way. My friend couldn’t resist after just a month because of severe side effects and weigh gain (instead of loss). Listen to the body!
I’d recommend not to overdose, dude!
Never more than 100 per day. Clomid’s not a toy LOL…
once I took 300 per day — NOWAY
OMG U’d die LOL
Hi! Once I took 500 a day LOL, DON’T DO THAT!!!
never more than 100
Hi! Is it safe to use this drug along with steroids?
sure dude we all do that
Mind the doses, and it’ll be fine!
YEP! Find more info here, I’ve seen some articles on the topic…
hi! absolutely, but if you know your doses, also mind your weigh…
I prefer taking them in turn, with breaks between courses. Anyway, may take both. It’s up to you.
Hi dudes! How long you take Clomid? I’ve just realized that I’m using it for about ten years LOL
The same shit, I take courses several times a year for 10 years, still fine LOL
5 years, seems fine LOL
wow i’ve been thinkin’ i’m the oldest fan – 8 years
25 years!!! Guess I’m the winner LOL
for me almost 8 OMG
Did anyone gain weight on this ? Same gym routine and diet…. been taking this for 1 month and up 15lbs.
me! rethink your diet, ’cause in mine case it was the reason, more proteins made the deal
seems strange, better health check yourself
impossible, just impossible
Hi everyone! What’s your Clomid course duration usually?
I’ve answered U in some other thread, about 3 weeks usually
Hi! I take it every three months, so shop four times a year, but it depends… Good luck anyway!
it depends, at least two weeks, maximum four weeks
I take the maximum dose but just for about a week, repeat depending on my purposes… Anyway, it’s up to you!
1-2 weeks, it depends
Four weeks maximum, and I take two months break at least, I LOVE my body and don’t wanna harm IT!
50 mg x 3 per day = normal?
depends on your mass but fine
I’m takin’ the same dose usually, but depends, really (muscle mass etc)…
For me 50X2 is enough, but it really depends on various factors…
if you start (it seems so), take it once a day, then gradually increase…
thanks! seems like it goes great!
hi, what are the symptoms of overdose?
Consult a label!
U’d understand LOL
R U still alive dude?
R U still alive? LOL
Hope you’re fine!
Hi! Should I change my normal protein plan while taking these pills? I’ve tried years ago, and now would like to restart, ’cause without ’em it seems too hard to manage… Thanks!
I’d take more proteins and more carbs (good ones)! Good luck!
Sorry, but U mean I’d take more in calories or not? Really cannot get the idea, dude. I’ve already bought ’em, so I really need some GOOD advice, sorry and thanks anyway!
I mean more protein without ‘overdosing’ in calories, dude 😉
Got it!
What about fat? My personal ‘coach’ tells I’d take more fat too BUT…
why U call him/her coach in such a way?
He seems to be not professional enough…
Hi! Could anyone tell the EXACT amount of protein/carbs/fat on Clomid? THX!
U R kiddin’ DEPENDS!
Some people really surprise me, U R right LOL
OK, in %?
is it safe with anabolics?
yep
mind the dosage
what shoul be the dose?
Can I use it for other sports? I mean I do not have to gain muscle mass, but I’d like to charge up my metabolism…
Sure!!! I’m taking it from time to time to get back in form before vacation!
Will you please tell me the dose and course duration? Thanks!
Read the instructions! The dose depends on your weigh, you just cannot follow my course. Good luck!
OK!
Hi! Does it work for tennis players? I’m a bit overweight for the next competition…
LOL I’ve never even thought of it, will wait for someone’s answer, too 🙂
theoretically, it should if you combine cardio with weigh and focus on proteins in your diet
Thanks!!!
Foolow the normal plan. I’m not a bodybuilder LOL, and it works!
Hi guys and other genders! Would anyone please share a good link with daily nutrition plan for different A/C doses? Thanks and peace!
I’d wait here for good advice too LOL
Noone gives it LOL (I’ve searched the web but am still awaiting for some real experience)
hi! I’m a starter, 19 YO, little experience in gym… would you recommend takin’ Clomid or not yet?
I’d tell first (about half a year) try to manage without it, than add the pills. Good luck anyway, and don’t give up!!!
Thanks! But what if I wanna boost it a bit?
Well, then start with the smallest dose, and don’t increase it at least the first month… Anyway, I’d insist on doin’ your best without any pills initially…
U’d better wait a bit, ’cause younger men most often do need such a HEAVY support
hi what happens if i double or triple the recommended dose thx
Hi! But why? In fact, if you train A LOT, and have GREAT results / muscle mass / diet / goals… well, you might try (not 3x but double), but it works the same and without “complications” at a normal dosage. Explain me, I’m curious!
forget it
Hi! Will 100′ pills once a day in the morning fit if I also take steroids?
depends on more factors, search for a calculator which counts weigh etc
Thanks! Maybe U’ve got a link to such a calculator online? I’ve tried and cannot find nothin’…
It is better to ask such questions to your doctor. Someone will suit, some will not. You cannot answer such a question without knowing your anamnesis.
i’d say better avoid takin’ both, better in courses (and the best never ever)
anyone took x3 daily dose? my gym mate says it works much better with steroids but i hesitate…
ME! Never again! And don’t do that! Maybe your ‘gym mate’ is a HULK, so it COULD fit him, but I’ve never EVER felt sooo bad in my life!
he says it depends and it would fit me
Well, so why R U asking??? Trust your mate and let it be…
dudes, wha about 100 mg daily for three months? REAL advice on PERSONAL experince please!!!
For me fine, I’m taking such courses from time to time!
I’d better start with 50 mg ones for at least a month
I take 100s, but U’d better start with 50s, and then increase the dose if you’ll feel fine.
People really need to start reading and stop asking stupid questions. If you cant figure this out on your own, than DO NOT TAKE SHIT YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF ITS PURPOSE! You want a simple answer, there isn’t one! Everyone has different situations, different chemistry, and different goals. Learn about the HPTA axis, learn each hormone, and its purpose, read some basic sports nutrition books. Consider Human Physiology your manual for its parameters, learn what your abilities are, but if you think asking people about how much clomid to take is a good question, fuck no! Why did you buy it?! You have one body, one lifetime, treat it with the respect it deserves. I read your questions and inwardly I am thinking, some of these people dont know what they are doing. Study, you can take chemistry and enhance almost every physiological aspect, by the same token, you could end up on dialysis or suffer from an embolism and be paralyzed the rest of your life. Consider this a pull-up.
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Hi! Would please someone tell me how it goes with protein? I mean I take ONLY it sometimes, and my friend tells Clomid could be useless in these periods… Thanks.
Well, dude… Clomid will work anyway. The main point’s ONLY PROTEIN does harm. Really, I’ve done that useless and totally stupid stuff. Add some of the rest. An apple a day LOL (non kiddin’)?
Thanks! I’m trying my way anyway LOL…
250 mcg a day – ok?
nope, especially if you had never tried it before, start with 50′ tabs
i’m overweigh, maybe 150 at least?
sorry, dude, i’m not your doc and cannot advise such things
The dose (and the rest) is the same both for men and women (and others), right? Thanks!
yep, it depends more on weigh and hormone levels, so almost all of us could safely start with 50
Hallo everyone! I’m on my first course (both these tabs and ster..ds), and I’ sweatin’ awfully!!! That’s normal or not?
Hi! It’s in the list, so don’t worry!
Thank you! Seems like is passes (gradually)
my doc told me to decrease the dose (gradually), but it’s normal, yep
absolutely normal, u r lucky
Hi! Anyone has a good nutrition plan for Clomid courses? I’ve searched the web, but wanna have something REAL. THX!!!
I’d try to find mine (written on a sheet of paper by my doc/trainer years ago LOL)!
Sorry, nothing (now I’m OFF and don’t remember), hope someone else could help you!
Hi! Thanks for your reply anyway!!!
hi! does it make any sense to take double dose three days before performance? one guy in my gym tells it’s his way to perform better..
I’ve never even heard of such a strange approach…
It could only do harm, so NOPE
Of course not! Choose the right dosage for yourself.
anyone has any idea on an alternative? this drug doesn’t fit me (unfortunately!!!)
Unfortunately NOPE. This one’s unique…
TOOO BAD
hi! is it true that during the course of clomid a person cannot consuma carbs at all?
consumA – absolutely NO, take – YEP but in moderation LOL (anyway good luck and search for a good nutrition plan!!!)
R there any meds to treat Clomid-related acne? I cannot manage just with the help of “proper nutrition” (obvoiusly)
normal anti-acne meds help as well, just read the instructions to make sure they could do together
You can argue with that! Help, but a lot of nuances
I have never tried clomid, but my friend uses it. in your opinion, how much does his reception help bodybuilders? is it worth consulting a doctor or are the side effects not critical?
Why don’t you ask your friend? BTW, it’s ALWAYS worth talking to your doc first. And yep, it DOES help.
Why don’t you ask your doc?
why? 😉
I talked to the doctor. I am surprised. at first he said that Clomid was perfectly safe. and at the next conversation he recommended to stop taking. he did not explain the reason. I don’t understand to continue or not. Thanks to your website, I used the link to buy Clomid.
listen to your doctor! if he forbade taking the drug, then there are reasons
I do not understand what to argue about. I consulted a doctor and am taking Clomid. helps a lot. if the doctor forbade, then I would find another alternative.
Why are you all taking these pills? why not do sports for yourself? beh chemistry! I do not understand
you all panic! I have been using Clomid for 5 years now and everything is fine!
I think in 2022 the price of Clomid will be lower!
guys i have a weird problem i have been doing bodybuilding for 3 years. decided to try clomid. went to three different doctors and all three prescribed me a different dosage based on my weight. I don’t understand which dosage is correct. did you have a similar situation? how did you solve it?
I have been doing bodybuilding for 5 years! I’ve seen a lot of nonsense, but what is going on in your comments made me wonder!
Everything was delivered quickly, thanks guys. I have been taking Clomid periodically for 4 years now, the result is excellent!
Hi guys. Leave the links where you can read additional information about Clomid in bodybuilding. There is little useful information here.
I don’t know why you’re all whining. I have great results after taking Clomid!
Hey! Can I email you? I have a few questions about Clomid that are best discussed with someone who has already taken and understands what’s what..